Thats bad, dont get me wrong. Rock River Arms is a firearms manufacturer located in Colona, Illinois. The firearms community will be better without them. Were pulling out of IFMA and regret that this happened. Rock River's LAR-458 is the top pick for hunters because of its value, excellent trigger and superb accuracy. 2) One of the Resses got caught doing something bad again, and a deal was reached to help anti-2nd forces in exchange for an investigation going away. As for furniture, the BT 9 R9 Competition comes with a Hogue overmolded pistol grip and a four-position adjustable Rock River Arms buttstock. In fact, I own a Springfield M1A Scout Squad that they gave me free of charge after I encountered a series of malfunctions with an old SAR8. Screw them. It is in between 5.56 and .223, but will safely shoot both. Other places have them for $200.00. The RRAGE pistol features a 10.5-inch barrel. Im a New Yorker. Good for them. A Rock River two-stage match trigger or even a 3-pound single-stage trigger would be a recommended upgrade. We picked up a few seats last fall, but that simply moved the average ideology of the Dem members further left in our state legislature. My SA 1911 Loaded Target has been my favorite pistol since I bought it last year. One of the few cases of sincere contrition. If you apply more than 9 make-ups in a year, you are in cosmetology businesses. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/28141995/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/illinois-has-long-legacy-public-corruption/, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_state_and_local_politicians_convicted_of_crimes. The RBG-1S is available in .308 Win./7.62x51 and 6.5 Creedmoor, with a 20-, 22- or 24-inch barrel, and a black, green or tan stock. Many companies make mistakes, sometimes huge. business or not your customers are your lively hood. Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the Pieces, Quote of the Day: The Johnny Appleseed of Ghost Guns, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, State, Federal Lawmakers Trying to Put the Brakes On Credit Card Companies Tracking Firearm Purchases, Chicagos Failed Mayor Lori Lightfoot Loses in Reelection EffortBadly, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Repeating_Arms_Company#Early_history, http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. Like a shrewd negotiator, Harmonhappily added a manufacturer and big box retailer carve-out to the bill so he couldcobble together the last few votes he needed to get it through the Senate. What part of their history am I missing Gov? Because of rumors of canceled orders. Make this a massive intractable mess. So, youre not buying a bunch of Springfields new pistols? I asked one. But when you have a muti million dollar company thats set up in a state thats you cant just pick up and move then you do what you have to do to survive. Could be paperweights. Looked at a custom SA 1911 before purchasing an STI. Rock River Arms sent me a 6.5 Creedmoor rifle with a tan stock and 24-inch barrel for testing. Same here. Except they are both under different ownership today. There are millions of people in the US who no longer think that its enough to fight and die for these rights. Every damn one of you bad asses crying I wont buy from them again would have done the same thing. Meanwhile, over at the Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. The Rock River Arms LAR-15 RRage 3G 5.56/.223 Rifle is a semi-auto rifle that delivers accurate shooting in a dependable platform with a clean, trim look. job creation they call it (bribery is such a dirty word). And if stooges like you thought this could be run under the table without anyone noticing, well, guess you should be mindful of your business in the next few quarters. Rock River Arms (RRA) has introduced a new AR-style rifle to its lineup, designed specifically with the modern hunter in mind, with the new All Terrain Hunter (ATH). When no one else had any left. Its not just selling, genius. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). The company makes a wide variety of weapons, And theyre telling their friends. Up yours Springfield! If it is a 16" it is 5.56, which the Entry Tactical is. As for Winchester still keeping an eye out for someone selling Grandads old 94 thats beat to hell but still shoots straight so I can beat it up a bit more. It was a great decision, I have never looked back. Glad to see TTAG not shy away from it. You should buy a BCM, Daniel Defense, or LWRC. If youre looking begin your 3-Gun or short-stage PRS competition endeavors, the Rock River Arms RRAGE 2G may be your ticket. cant hornor us people gun rights I say F THEM ALL. So how is screwing your customer base over a sound business strategy? Now they piss on us and tell us its raining? Dennis Reeses statement to TTAGon IFMAs deal was insulting. The lobbyist for the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA), Jay Keller,traded that groups opposition to the bill in exchange for a carve-out, removing PrairieState firearms manufacturers from the licensing requirements. I swear its getting hard to keep track of them all by memory. Start by giving everyone involved a TSA-style probe. My sprinters were not seeing much action lately. RRA looks pretty darn guilty or pretty darn incompetent. The Illinois Manufacturers Association will continue to fight and protect not only manufacturers, but dealers and the gun owner as well.. Had it in the cart at buds ready to buy tomorrow and now it definitely is not going to happen. We do not need traitors in our midst. Posted: 1/27/2021 10:51:01 AM EST. With support like that, who needs Everytown? I would say that Ruger has done more to support the 2A than all other companies combined. The Henry ri fle was made by the New Haven Ar ms Company. Illinoying is pushing to get shut down. We want our dealers and our valued customers to know we wont ever do anything like this again., We fully support the Second Amendment and stand by it. So many good options, why buy from jackasses. They were charging $100 for a 30 round mag during the panic. Its like trying to work with Bloomberg himself. Thankfully, we still have two more chances to stop this travesty of a bill. Moved my medical business AND brought my family. And then maybe. They pulled the same crap for the Clinton ban, Amen almost bought a springfield I agree with you to hell with them sig glock ruger for me here on out. Theyve earned back the support of 2A advocates, imo. Web50%. The Reese clan has done dirty deals before, got busted too, http://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/16/Salvador-based-Army-colonel-indicted-on-bribery-charges/5406606027600/, RRA sells to NY LE supporting the SAFE act, which is trying to put a vet away for 21 years for having 17rd mags (no gun, just mags), http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/04/veteran_faces_21_years_in_prison_for_possession_of_pistol_magazines.html. Maybe there is a Mrs. Reese or someone or something burning cash on the side (gambling, drugs, who knows) that is consuming profit faster than SA can generate it. The S&W deal with Clinton was made on March 17, 2000 and the company was sold for $45 million ($15 million cash and $30 million in acquired debt) on May 11, 2001 As if they want to implode. How does a company respond to pernicious laws and an atmosphere which is detrimental to the People of the Gun? This companys name is Mudd. Or cameras? Or how much it was going to take to replace them? Lobbying groups run on a lot of assumptions and they dont take a vote from membership every time a change is made to a bill that they think concerns their members. Well I will see if I can make a good trade for STI, Para, or a cz had a cz 85 combat one time and traded it, was a real good gun in a 9 mm.Things like this is realy bad just cant trust anyone anymore. Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the it I am not positive, but didnt Beretta get so pissed with Maryland that they moved everything, or is it still on going? I can promise that none, and I mean none of my not unsubstantial refund, is going to wind up in Springfields receivables account. Id like to see Springfield make a correction here but it might be too late for that. Your arguments are supercilious and embarrassingly logic free. Rock River Arms offers its version with a twist near and dear to my heart: the new LAR-15 pistol is available in both right- and left-hand configurations. Watch the TonyBen videos on YouTube. I dont have anything from either of the turncoat manufacturers and based on their actions, I never will. Instead, we were undercut by aself-serving supposed ally. I would start negotiating with one of those for manufacturing space and move my entire operation to a gun-friendly climate. So I went on a buying spree. is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders. Huh? Most dont buy a gun thinking about selling it down the road, bit it happens. Ruget supported the ban on high capacity (ie standard capacity) mags as it favored their line of sporting rifles like the mini-14. Includes larger .1555 MSRP: $111.99 $75.81. A big reason that these rifles shoot so well is the barrel. The barrels Rock River use come from the Connecticut-based company, Wilson Arms (wilsonarms.com). Wilson makes the barrel, contours it and starts the chambering process. How did the unveiling of the new pistol go? Whats left after the hate which never leaves? And their quality has never wavered (damn straight). Thats not fighting to protect gun owners. The innovation and embracing of modern ideas weve seen the last 10yrs (MSRs, suppressors, polymer everything, etc) never would have happened under Bill. And IFMA successfully lobbied and got a manufactures exemption this bill . Low character move. The plant where that rifle is made revitalized the area n which it is made. If that hurts a company whos sold you out, good. Do they somehow know the licensing scheme is going to be corrupt or extremely expensive? You ask what was Springfield supposed to do? In the former case its a matter of not really understanding the client and in the latter its a case of assuming that its better to ask for forgiveness than to beg for permission. With the Hillarys loss there is no longer a looming gun ban on the horizon and the firearm industry and market is facing a correction. Make the bill political kryptonite. People are watching everything the government and companies are doing now. As far as the betrayal, bear in mind that it was the act of a couple of people and unfortunately there are plenty of freedom loving 2nd Amendment supporters working for SA that will be harmed by their bad judgement. Weve got three very active groups on the ground in Illinois promoting GOTV campaigns and spreading the word. Its transfers. CZ-75/85 are great guns. This Modern Sporting Rifle is built with a carbine-length gas system with a low-profile gas black to efficiently redirect propellant gases. Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins.. You shouldve made that decision because it is a piece of garbage, not because of this hysterical article. Is Rob Leatham going to stick with Springfield after this debacle? Come to find out the guy had paid triple for the supply to be trucked in so people could have them. Hes hurt the small guys trying to kiss up to the big retailers here in Illinois. Antifa is showing what they are willing to do, watch their fellow komrad take a LEO beanbag round to the wang and keep marching. Two more companies added to my do not buy from list. 2nd Amendment Supporters are up in "Arms" pun intended about the News broken by The Truth About Guns article concerning recent state licensing for all Illinois gun dealers that IFMA (Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association) a lobbying group back by Springfield Armory and Rock River Sadly I have two. WARNING: The products offered for sale on this website can expose you to chemicals which are known to the State Well, now. He didnt say, Hey, we screwed up. A CEO that listens to the customer. Bill Ruger was key in the implementing of the 94 AWB, refusing to sell evil 20+ round magazines to anyone but .gov entities? Out of stock. Send a signal to IL Senators and the Governor that supporting the bill is politically a trainwreck. WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. Glad I waited. Welp. The dimensions and leade of the .223 Remington minimum C.I.P. once you jump in bed with the marketing types. Indiana has a good climate for manufacturers of firearms, and I wouldnt mind seeing a few more ffls open up shop near me in Northwest Indiana, either. Its like saying Saturn is really, really big, and huge, too! About three years ago, RRAs Elite Operator hit the market sporting features designed specifically for professionals. I look at their site and the parts were available from the same warehouses at a higher price. SA created it). Springfield is DEAD to me. As far as Im concerned, Smith and Wesson are still shit given they operate in communist MA and they should have packed up an left after what that bitch Maura Healey did last year. So how is screwing your loyal customer base and flipping them the bird to their faces sound business policy? We reserve the right to adjust product prices as dictated by the market.. The licensing fee? If theres something worse than a fanboy, its a fanboy fudd. The bills author was (mostly) Rugers attorneys. Regardless of who did what,the after-effects of this deal and a legislative loss will be felt far beyond Illinois for some time to come. Screw that. PERIOD. After the event I hadnt seen a shipping notification. I think that if gun owners boycotted every company into oblivion that had to compromise at some point there wouldnt be any gun manufacturers around. Enjoy 45% Off Rock River Arms Goods At Walmart. If your going to bash or boycott one then bash and boycott all. Built on the companys RRAGE upper and lower receiver and handguard assemblies, the pistol delivers a sleek profile. This Rock River PCC shows itself to be a well-engineered carbine ready to work (and look good doing it). RRA will wind up being an LE only shop. They keep voting for F#$%ing Democrats. This isnt really about the law itself. WebProduct Description. Rock Bolt Gun Rbg-1s Starting At $4,450. With all the gun control in northern Illinois how the hell can they screw all of us like this! Sure, the majority will be DOA, but blue and swing states will see this get passed using this an example of good gun control that even firearms companies support. Most places, its still over $1500. I wont name them, but the sales people at certain companies worked hard (and maybe even fudged some dates on paperwork) to make sure that I got my magazines before the deadline in the law hit. Rock River Arms built its reputation on quality semi-automatic AR-pattern rifles and 1911 handguns. In my collection i have a M1A, a Socom 16, a XDM in 45 and a XDmod2 in 9mm. Just as its equally acceptable for folks like me to attempt to boycott them into bankruptcy. I hate to say this Tony, but you are completely clueless about lobbyists. Hugely disappointing. An xdm9 and a 1911 loaded. Down side is nobody making spare mags for it yet other than Hornor Defense. They hate this stuff because opponents can use it. But thats only a fraction of his treachery. So I got the mags from a third party seller and have refused to do business with them ever since. And their ammo prices were astronomical. Pennsylvania checking in. I see only three plausible reasons: 1) Greed millions are never enough. I think sometimes its just because they are new to the hobby of guns. They see deep-blue Illinois as a great place toenact more of their gun control schemes. Cancelled orders? No more. Springfield Armory, Rock River Arms Trade Opposition to Illinois FFL Licensing Scheme for Carve-Out. No lobbyist will take a position without their clients approval, because THE CLIENT PAYS THE LOBBYISTS SALARY. Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. I imagine that there will be a few FFLs leaving IL. 84283412342. I think probably not. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. What flavor is it, and how much do you want? (This is in response to Mark). Maybe the deal was the result ofa lobbyist gone rogue. Until I see some evidence that they knew of and/or supported this I will not rush to blame RRA for what a trade industry group that they happen to fund did. They are more than welcome in southern Indiana. They MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. You write as though weve been asleep. Couple of Butler Buildings, concrete pad to support machinery loading, movers and a power hookup. The Ceo needs to retire, and everyone on the upper levels canned to. Its a FACT that those brands are twice the price as Ruger. Not a nice odor. As a long-time, dedicated anti-gunner, this wasnt Senator Harmons first legislative rodeo. But I didnt detect a lot of love in his words. Going the other direction nobody would move. I have been casually looking at getting a 1911. I know people who continue to not buy Ruger even after his kids made up for the old mans traitorous ways. They also make an Original Henry Rifle. You can learn to make good parts on a CNC a lot faster than on a Bridgeport or SouthBend. I was just about to purchase a 1911 with the deal Springfield is running this week. In your opinion. I see how you fired a shot across IFMAs bow last week. Henry and Ruger for the win. Lots of work. Rock River Arms RRAGE Carbine LAR-15 with ATN Day/Night scope. Make it a campaign issue NOW. Granted, the company isnt run by a Henry these days but I thought the paper trail of ownership was fairly clear and unbroken. Asit should. The ATH V2 comes with an 18-inch, stainless steel, Pretty small and isolated country town. I was going to buy the Saint, seemed like a.nice rifle, now.they can piss up a rope. Ruger today is a strong supporter of everything 2A. Any I have to ask WHY? This would appear to be financial suicide by Springfield. Magpul moved. Just keep in mind, if you have a dozen guns in your safe, I GUARANTEE you that at least one comes from a company whos compromised at some point. What opinion? Since you researched IFMA you also noticed that the $100K was the ONLY money they had in their account, donated by only two companies, SAI and RRA. You are both dead to me now. When I explained that sales were still legal before the SAFE Act deadline went into force, they still refused. Please, spend your money where you want. I sent an email and their response was the parts were out of stock. So thats a reason for ignoring the fact that Ruger basically wrote the assault weapons ban? If youve already implemented them, great. Perhaps a company thought they could pull a fast one and nobody would notice. Good luck with that RRA. These fat dumb and happy political hacks arent used to burning time and money on issues this far out. Who the hell made this business decision and have they been fired yet? RRA and Springfield can suck my dong, they will never get a penny from me. The more concentrated the producers and sellers of firearms becomes the easier it will be to controlled and monitored. I would move EVERYTHING 25 miles West to Davenport Iowa. Beretta (ex-MD) and Remington (ex-NY) make your statements look foolish. Peoplr lose jobs, get divorced, buy better guns and so on. The LAR-15 X-Series X-1 Rifle in .223/5.56mm from Rock River Arms is available at a manufacturer suggested retail price of $1,450.00 and $1,500.00, depending on the stock and color option (Black and Tan). Folks like me are willing to kill for them. 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