I do not see Traveller ships on there anywhere. Meaning, you won't even see them if they walk around in downtown Manhattan. I've had lots of problems with this too. Besides the standard biped ProtoMechs ranging from 2 to 9 tons, Ultraheavy ProtoMechs also exist ranging from 10 to 15 tons (overlapping in tonnage and capability with some BattleMechs), and there are also both Quadrupedal and Glider ProtoMechs.[15]. They're a tad hard to come by right now due to the kickstarter but they'll be up on Catalysts webstore eventually and they have more designs coming with wave 2: https://imgur.com/a/yoSHDS3. The big jump was from PGI for MWO, and this game uses those models with a x1.25 modifier on their size. One of the major stumbling blocks was the need for EI in order to control the machine; even if it could be copied, the moral and ethical problems associated with the system would prevent widespread use. since the novels and the fluff also describe some as being larger and smaller than others, this is probably an average figure, not a universal one. [6][7][8] When something as simple as size keeps shifting from 3 to 5+ stories in height it gets a bit difficult to concentrate ;-). The official height of a Mech has always been a discussion point, some official products have given different heights for certain Mechs, licenced products (like computer games) have given a plethora of conflicting heights for Mechs, and the official miniatures are so out of scale that it isn't funny. Create maps that suit your needs. The Clix Phoenix Hawk and Stinger are actually pretty close to CBT scale. It keep them from shifting around too much and provides some protection. And how Huge the ATF went with the Valhalla, bigger than a standard gate. As a result they are depicted as being something like twice as big today as they were originally. With their fusion engines, they can move considerably faster than battle armor but are more compact than BattleMechs. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The Ishiyama map was intended to be cut in quarters and then randomly arranged each match to reflect the unknown layout of the arena. After a couple requests and seeing several comments other places asking about the size comparisons of the 2 games overlapping mecha, here you go.want to take. Besides six individual maps, the MapPack Flatlands Terrain Set was published that combined those six maps for a lower price. The first side of this BattleMat is a desert map containing 8 of the 12 maps from Map Pack: Deserts, and the second side is a grasslands map containing 8 of the 12 maps from Map Pack: Grasslands. Basically, it needs to be big enough to fit the cockpit and engine/gyro. Attempts made to breed a new kind of warrior for the ProtoMech ended in failure, leaving the scientists no choice but to use volunteer Aerospace pilots who had failed to test into the Warrior Caste. Space Pirate Captain Haarlock. (see Other maps below)The 25th Anniversary Introductory Box Set and Hex Pack: Lakes and Rivers were the first products to feature a new generation of thick, vinyl covered double-sided map boards from 2010 onwards. A high-quality neoprene map set focused on unusual biomes, with four double-sized, 34 x 22", double-sided BattleMats. Even more so when the subject is infantry carriers. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Two additional weapons or pieces of equipment can be mounted on the torso, though their combined weight cannot exceed two tons, and each arm can mount one weapon no greater than a half-ton in weight. New Btech infantry (and the original K and D Infantry) sculpts are done in N-scale for more detail. Disclaimer: I posted in this topic simple because its the first topic that google search will deliver. Includes the maps from Map Sets 5 and 6, plus Planetary Assault Maps 1 and 2 from BattleForce 2 and the BattleSpace map. The beginner boxed set includes one unique, double-sided 18 x 22 full-color game map, with maps called Grasslands #1 (Side A) and Desert #1 (Side B). Thanks. For more information, please see our Scale in battletech miniatures is an iffy thing, even within figures made within a similar time frame, I wouldn't fret about it too much. The cheap option is going to a local fabric store and get some felt. Is there any size difference between the Clix WotC versions and the pewter IWM and Fasa ones? [10] The only Inner Sphere faction known to have moved beyond theoretical discussions was the Word of Blake, overcoming the control and pilot size issues with the development of an advanced pilot interface based off their Vehicular Direct Neural Interface technology, encasing a limbless Manei Domini in a life-support apparatus that was then sealed within a ProtoMech, the pilot maintained via intravenous nutrients and recycled biomatter. In 2017 Ulisses Spiele released a new, original BattleTech Starterbox boxed set (not to be confused with the previous "Einsteigerbox"). Well miniatures are a different piece of cake. The figures are generally too large to fit into standard sized hexes though. Here's what the Catalyst neoprene maps look like, they're double sided. For nearly a day and a half we were an island of resistance in a sea of Falcon Green. You can also get them printed, as is via Poster Print factor linked on the thread with less modification. Thanks guys, appreciate all the advice and knowledge. Renegade Legion had a hovertank combat system (Centurion) with maps similar in style to regular BattleTech maps, and its Leviathan and Interceptor space combat games had maps similar to AeroTech. A high-quality neoprene map set focused on Strana Mechty, with one double-sized, 34 x 22", double-sided BattleMat. Hell, it's pretty much common knowledge thats a load. The four of them together form the tournament map. A high-quality neoprene map set, designed for hexless Alpha Strike play, with one double-sized, 36 x 22", double-sided BattleMat. (The BattleTech 25th Anniversary Introductory Box Set may have been intended to be the first product featuring these improved maps, but its release was delayed until 2011 by other issues.). [13] Weapons such as the ER Micro Laser and Light Machine Gun were initially developed by the Smoke Jaguars specifically for ProtoMechs, though they have since spread to other combat units. Although a number of "official" mapsheets exist for BattleTech, players are by no means required to use these. I am sure this is on here somewhere but I am to tired and lazy to look. (These vessels fall into the WarShip category for technical reasons, but are not intended to be used as combat vessels. Answer (1 of 2): Hard to answer. Why ? [11] Vehicles and dropships are also compared as well. Knowing that their Khans would not even consider full-scale production of ProtoMechs until they were proven effective in combat, the Smoke Jaguar scientists and geneticists began working on the project in secret, understanding that it could be years before their work could be revealed. 3. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Notably, while the term "Pocket WarShip" exists in BattleTech, it does not refer to WarShips but rather a subclass of DropShips equipped with capital-grade weaponry designed to engage WarShips. It's amazing how many fandoms are represented. The writers are imagining things that haven't been invented yet and often don't have the technical know how to know if something is feasible or not. My dad has recently gotten me into Battletech and we are planning a full scale campaign. Similarly, the mapsheets in the Solaris VII game represent only 7.5 meters of ground distance, a quarter of the scale of standard BattleTech. "The rules technically allow all sorts of bad ideas." Btech scale jumps around less but tries to stay around 1:285 if it can. Press J to jump to the feed. 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You get entire self sustaining colonies worth of people living in the massive ships, entire generations live and die without seeing outside of the ship, people are literally worked to death moving these sky scraper ordinance shells around and chucked into a food processor after a battle. Published by licensee Ulisses Spiele Hardware Handbuch 3039 is the German edition of Technical Readout: 3039 (TRO:3039).Unlike previous TROs, this edition matches the original edition in all aspects. If I were to give a rough estimate to go by I would say light mechs 8 meters, medium 9, heavy 10, assault 11. Random internet musings of a BattleTech writer are not canon. Find one in your country/region to avoid paying high shipping fees. and our dropship/mech size comparison . "There's a difference between the soldier and his fight. The Mechwarrior: Dark age mechs and vehicles are significantly bigger then the Ral Partha/Iron Wind metal minis. The Reinforcements: Clan Invasion boxed set includes one unique, double-sided 36 x 22 full-color game map focused on Twycross. Walking the fine line between sarcasm and being a smart-ass. What comes in the Latest "A game of armored combat"? Includes all maps from Map Sets 2 through 4. It's a gator with a nuke, whats the problem. As such their agility falls somewhere between infantry and 'Mechs: they can move through most buildings with minimal collateral damage and can go from a prone to standing position in seconds. How's it sit? There is a lot of conflicting information on how tall battlemechs are, and no sources explicitly state the exact height of any mechs. The first all-new map set in nearly twenty years, Map Pack: Grasslands includes six double-sided maps providing twelve brand-new battlefields. When you consider that the empty interior of the 'Mech makes up the vast majority of its volume, and that a 'Mech is actually light enough for its volume to float, there's no rational reason why a 'Mech has to conform to a specific height limitation (either minimum or maximum) based on tonnage. I keep hearing about it but not dates. You gotta fit a dude in the head. German BattleTech licensee Ulisses Spiele published a range of map sets ("BattleTech Kartensets") in 2014, both as a physical product and as PDF downloads. Nearly every Clan obtained ProtoMech salvage on Huntress, producing them in limited numbers. A map set focused on the Battle of Tukayyid, with four double-sized, 34 x 22", double-sided paper maps. It was published for free. Grasslands #2, Grasslands #3, Desert #2 and Desert #3. They're Macross kits mounted on clix bases. One side depicted part of Imperial City, the other Kado-guchi Valley. Is this true? FanPro product #35002 was released in 2005. Dubbed ProtoMechs, the ultimate goal of these machines was for a Point of five, working in unison, to be as effective as a BattleMech, while requiring less than half the amount of construction resources. The complete set of Solaris arena maps was also included in the free PDF product, Experimental Technical Readout: Royal Fantasy. The Blood Spirits were the first Clan to begin a full-blown training program. Re: Official height (dimensions) of Mechs and Vehicles? The PDF-only Touring the Stars: Noisiel contains six printable maps and rule expansions to play the Mech games that make Noisiel famous for their Summer Games. A number of Map Sets and Map Set Compilations were published as supplements for the game, providing additional gaming maps with new hex-based terrain. Jump distance is 200 meters , so impr. The French gaming magazine Casus Belli, who had ties to the official publisher of the French edition of BattleTech (Jeux Descartes), published a BattleTech map in 1994 that is copyrighted to the magazine, but matches the style found in other BattleTech maps. That said, there isnt a ton of variation between the CGLs and IWs. Beyond the boxed sets and dedicated map packs, some other individual products include boardgame mapsheets with hexes. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I just finished my 8th one, and I'm considering giving 2in hexes a try. I dimly recall 12m. About 8 to 14 meters, depending on the 'Mech. Smoke Jaguar scientists found that if something wasn't done soon, their Clan worlds would soon be stripped of the ores needed for BattleMech production. I can't cite a source, but I'm fairly certain 9.5m is way too short for a SHD. The A Game of Armored Combat boxed set includes two unique, double-sided 18 x 22 full-color game maps, with maps called Grasslands #2, Grasslands #3, Desert #2 and Desert #3. Although the battle was ultimately lost, the ProtoMech's debut could not be ignored by the other Clans. If both players are using them, it should work just fine. Some are tall and thin, some are short and squat. This allowed maps to be included in some sourcebooks, too. Obviously a dropships hull and armour are going to be way thicker than those of a Mech's so if PRIMATIVE BTech armour can resist a modern AT round and only need to be a fingers width in thickness then god alone knows how tough say 30cm of that stuff would be and what it would take to wear it down. Note: I should really, just reformat, and report the maps to be ready to print by inked. Posted 03 November 2016 - 09:24 AM. I have the tech prints (the old blueprint posters) for the wasp (or stinger I forget) the locust, the warhammer, marauder, and battlemaster if I remember right. While compatible with BattleTech map topology, the hexes on the Centurion map are printed slightly larger so that the mapsheets from the two games do not align. Mech minis are of kinda inconsistent scale anyways. Captain; A Gundam Particle cannon is the comparable damage to a capital ship weapon, and vaporizes all the armor it touches, taking out entire mechs in a single shot, absolutely coring them completely. [2], It was not until the development of the Enhanced Imaging (EI) system by Clan scientists that the ProtoMech concept became a viable one. The guy specifically asked for maps, not for instruction on not using them. Theyre respectably sized, really. I love this infographic. A bunch of plastic, hexagonal terrain that you can build in different ways for every battle. 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